Indian
Larry - Information
Indian Larry is a legend in the motorcycle world, his motorcycles
are timeless and unique. I had a chance to speak with Larry
and get to know this mechanical Genius.
www.indianlarry.com
In November 2003 I had the good fortune to interview a man
who in my opinion is the greatest motorcycle master fabricator
anywhere on the planet, Indian Larry. He is a skilled machinist,
metal-sculptor, master motorcycle mechanic and visionary. He
has won countless custom shows and puts his total attention
and focus into everything he touches. Larry's inspiration came
from the motorcycle clubs of 50s-60s, Ed "Big Daddy" Roth
and the legendary Kenny Howard better known as Von Dutch. Larry
originated his own style blending the hard-core motorcycle,
classic chopper and hotrod race bike to form a graceful piece
of rolling art. For over 30 years he has been building custom
motorcycles, Larry's talents and beliefs transcend the OUT
OF THE BOX theories of present day which enable him to use
his brilliant imagination to build old school choppers even
better then the builders of the 60's I believe. His creations
are built as works of art that boldly cut the wind like a sharp
knife. The influences of the greatest creative minds in motorcycle
history safely reside and are well kept inside this one of
a kind artist! Indian Larry's friendly nature and willingness
to help others as he did in the chopper build off with Billy
Lane are his trade mark. I wish him the best of luck in all
of his endeavors and will now and always be proud to know him
and call him a friend.
Don V: Who was the one person that influenced
you the most?
Indian Larry: Ed Roth was my biggest influence; I met him in
the 60's. I went to California as a starry eyed kid to try
to work with him. But unfortunately he told me "you have
no California experience kid!" So he sent me off to work
for a great car painter by the name of Larry Watson. I did
prep and primer work for Larry and then finally returned to
NY still in pursuit of my dream! But the influence of Ed Roth
still stuck with me because Big Daddy was the type who did
not worry about what others thought he just built what he liked
and that is exactly what I do. I don't care about what others
have to say and now most of the bikes I build range in price
from $65,000 to $100,000. I do things my way from concept to
completion.
Don V: What do you feel is the most important
detail when building a custom bike?
Indian Larry: Number one is to give the buyer exactly what
they want detail by detail. A custom bike should be built to
accommodate the person riding it and be ergonomically correct.
I feel a rigid frame is the best, it should be stripped down
to eliminate unneeded components and also be powerful, nibble,
with quick response and speed. Choppers are a living sculpture
and all the parts need to be visible to the eye. I don't understand
sometimes what some of the custom builders around the country
are trying to accomplish by hiding most of the inner workings
of their bikes. A lot of the builders today do not even know
how to spoke a wheel! The billet wheels in use today by most
builders I feel detract from the looks of the bikes. I am old
school all the way and always will be.
Don V: What are your favorite motors to use
in your choppers?
Indian Larry: Well Don, 96 to 106 cubic inch motors are perfect
and among the most popular but I have gone all the way up to
126. I use mostly S&S components because they are made
well, dependable and are the oldest company reproducing Harley
engines. I also like to use Patrick racing engines when the
need arises. Most of the motors I use are sand cast shovels
and pans. A 106 cubic inch panhead front and a shovelhead rear
cylinder, with duel carbs is my favorite motor out of all of
them.
Don V: Your seats are very low on the frame.
Do you feel this helps the rider get in tune with feeling the
bike under him?
Indian Larry: It provides a low center of gravity and helps
tremendously when cornering. The rigid factor of the frame
allows for a cool, comfortable overall feeling. It also helps
the rider flow with the bike and enables him to feel as one
with the machine. This to me is the best way to build a chopper!
Don V: Are all your bikes hardtails?
Indian Larry: I build both styles of choppers, but I would
have to say the rigid frame is my favorite. I have no problem
riding 300 miles a day on one. Ergonomics are a big factor
with me because first and foremost the bike has got to be
comfortable. So many people have told me that a rigid frame
is bad for your back but I feel they are wrong and the opposite
applies with me. I feel a rigid is good for the back and
is very comfortable.
Don V: Of all the bikes you have built, do
you have a favorite?
Indian Larry: The Rat Fink dedication bike is one of my favorites,
but also the Wild Child bike I built for the Chopper Build
Off with Billy Lane. It had a pan front and a shovel rear,
and the thing is to make them both work together for smooth
consistent power. I guess you could say all the bikes I build
are favorites of mine and one of a kind. I loved building them
all and will build many more. (Larry's creations can be seen
at www.indianlarry.com)
Don V: Do you plan to build any special bikes
for Bike Week 2004 or Sturgis?
Indian Larry: I am working on one right now, and getting it
ready for Sturgis. It has a pan front, shovel rear with an
Evo crankcase. I should have no trouble getting 225mph out
of her. I am really looking forward to it, and I feel the fans
will appreciate this beautiful work of art.
Don V: Do you have a favorite hang out in
Daytona?
Indian Larry: After finishing the day I like to get on the
bike and head out of the city and ride to St. Augustine or
some place where I can get a good meal, relax and take a swim
if possible. I love my fans and feel it is an honor to meet
them all but want some time alone to regroup for the next day
and I find a nice long ride provides the needed medicine.
Don V: Are you and Billy Lane planning anything
special for Bike Week 2004?
Indian Larry: This year we will have the entire lot in front
of Stevens Tires across the street from the Wreck. Our tee
shirts and pictures will be available, but it also gives us
a chance to meet the fans one on one and shake their hands.
It is a great experience for me, I love it! I have always felt
that everyone should do what they love and some day the recognition
will come without seeking it. I feel humbled by the fan attention
and appreciate every one of them.
Don V: What is your favorite event to attend?
Indian Larry: I like them all but I think Daytona, Sturgis
and Myrtle Beach are the best.
Don V: Are custom cars also a passion with
you Larry?
Indian Larry: I used to build a lot of cars, I am a real gear
head at heart. But I found my passion was to combine my love
of cars and motorcycles and built hot rod bikes.
Don V: What kind of stunts do you perform?
Indian Larry: I do the triple firewall crash, stand on the
seat at about 55+mph, ride with no hands, wheelies and lay
down on the bike seat backwards.
Don V: Have you ever ridden the Wall Of Death?
Indian Larry: Not yet but it would really mean a lot to me.
I would love to do it with your friend Samantha Morgan, Don!
Don V: You are also an artist Larry, are
any of your metal sculptures on display anywhere?
Indian Larry: I have helped on several projects and worked
as an ironworker in NY, but my motorcycles are my artwork.
They are a true expression of my creative talents and feelings.
The best day is one of creation, when I can take nothing but
raw components and make something meaningful by putting all
of my creative energy into it.
Don V: You mentioned something to me about
coming to Florida. If you did, where do you think you would
like to locate?
Indian Larry: Well, as I said I love to swim, so Miami is probably
where I would like to be when we get ready to leave NY.
Take me home, carry me home, back to Gasoline Alley where
I belong>" That's how the early 70's Rod Stewart Song
went, and it still hold's true today.
Old Skool choppers like "back in the day" still
rule at this NYC shop.
Deep in the heart of Brooklyn, NY's industrial waterfront
district lies Indian Larry's GASOLINE ALLEY NYC. Neatly tucked
between warehouses and commercial buildings, magic is being
made daily. I caught up with Indian Larry and his partner Gerard
while the Discovery Channel was at the shop filming another
biker build-off for their Motorcycle Mania show. This time
it's Indian Larry vs. Master builder Paul Yaffee. It was hetic,
indeed. The Horse will feature the Gasoline Alley NYC crew's
bike from conception through the building process and final
judging at the Laconia M.C. Rally this June in an upcoming
issue.

Gasoline Alley was started about three years ago at this location
on Brooklyn's North 14 Street. Both Larry and Gerard have a
long and illustrious history of chopper building. Their clients
include the likes of Tyson Beckford and Evan Sienfield of Bio-Hazard
and OZ on HBO among many other notables. They don't discriminate
to just the celebrity set. You will find folks from every walk
of life drifting in and out of Gasoline Alley NYC. Larry and
Gerard take pride in treating everyone equally. From the highest
of the high to a dirt bag photojournalist like me. Everyone
is made to feel welcome and they take the time to make sure
you get just what you need.

Indian Larry's resume reads like something out of fiction.
A metal sculptor, motorcycle artist, stuntman and movie celebrity,
Indian Larry was also featured in a previous Discovery Channel
biker special with Jesse James. As for Larry's other credits,
the movies QUIZ SHOW, 200 CIGARETTES, ROCKET'S RED GLARE as
well as TV commercials for Burger King and Harley-Davidson
and a bunch of music videos.
While I shot the new Discovery bike, I spied this sweet old
skool Panhead tucked lovingly in the rear of the work area.
As fate would have it the, lovely Suzy McCoppin, co-star of
HBO's GAMES PEOPLE PLAY and INFAMOUS was also conveniently
at hand. (Regular readers know that the old Teddy Bear always
has a young lovely near by.) I just couldn't let this opportunity
pass. Also on hand for the build was Paul Cox, master of leather.
Larry surrounds himself with the cream of chopperdom. Paul
made seats for Billy Lane's Choppers Inc, Jesse James West
Coast Choppers among others and is also one hell of a machinist.
In attendance was Knucklehead Steve, another renowned fixture
in the NYC chopper scene. I sorta twisted Larry's arm and he
agreed to share this sweet ride with us.

This baby is a neo/classic rigid style Panhead chopper right
out of the past. Three months in gestation, it's birth was
eagerly awaited by it's owner Chris Hynes.
It sports an 88-cubic-inch neo/Pan engine rebuilt by Accurate
engineering with S&S cases and pistons topped off with
STD heads and Mallory ignition. Also in the power plant are
Andrews cams, Jims lifters and an S&S Super E carb. The
hydraulic clutch helps shift the JIMS 6-speed tranny with graceful
ease.

The frame is a custom 2002 Atlas/Gasoline Alley NYC special
with a 35-degree rake and stretched 2 inches in the down tubes.
It takes a Primo Brute IV 3-inch belt drive to handle the power.

The gas tank is a modified Paughco that was lovingly remolded
and shot with sweet epoxy black pearl by Robert Pradke/Custom
Auto Design and the oil system is a Gasoline Alley NYC custom
design fed by a Choppers Inc. oil tank. The seat by Paul Cox
Custom Leather Design is almost too damned pretty to put your
ass on.

Up front 6-inch billet risers are topped off by a tasteful
set of ape hangers. Keeping with the NYC tradition, there is
no front fender and no speedometer. If you ride in NYC, you
need balls of steel, and with this traditional set up, they'll
be well tempered by the end of one rush hour commute. The Excel
wheels and hubs with Avon tires mounted 21"x 215 front
and 18" x 5.5" rear make this baby sit real proud.

Building a bike like this from the ground up is what Gasoline
Alley NYC is famous for. Real Old Skool styling and new cutting
edge technology can work exceedingly well together, if done
properly and tastefully. You won't find the traditional Billet
Barge here in this shop. Every bike is a work of art. Larry
and Gerard take pride in their craftsmanship and every hand
that works on a bike or that manufactures a custom part is
the hand of a true artist.

" And if I'm called away and it's my turn to go,
Should the blood run cold in my veins,
Just one favor I'll be asking you,
Don't bury me here it's too cold,
Take me back,
Carry me back,
Down to Gasoline Alley where I started from"
The scene could be a wise-guy movie, a London fog-covered
street at dusk or a tale being told in a downtown bar. Although
these all sound mysterious enough, we actually find former
Marine corporal, Bill Cardone, in a Brooklyn back-alley rolling
out another piece of art known as - the great American chopper.
Discovery Channel has recently departed the shop and the next
craze of reality TV has captured a wide array of the international
public. "Indian Larry" just beat out Billy Lane on "Biker
Build Off IV" where men take raw steel and turn them into
fine-tuned precision motorcycles. But where is the Marine Corps
connection here on North 14th Street?
Cardone, 47, of Flushing, N.Y., a former Electronics Technician
with MWCS-28, is burrowed into this famous East River shop
known as "Gasoline Alley, NYC." Cardone, a right-hand
man to world-renowned chopper artist "Indian Larry," has
been in this business since the mid-80's.
"I started tearing down mini-bikes when I was a kid,
and just kept with it," said Cardone.
Cardone credits the Marine Corps for directing his life. "I
was running with the wrong crowd. The Marine Corps taught me
discipline, how to act like a man and work with other people."
A meritorious PFC out of boot camp in 1973, Cardone got out
as a corporal from Marine Corps Air Station, Cherry Point,
N.C., in 1977. He then worked as a truck mechanic until his
itch for building bikes landed him with his first professional
job at Jar Choppers in the Bayside area of Brooklyn, N.Y.,
for 10-years.
"I actually consider myself an artist," said Cardone. "It
is a true sense of accomplishment to picture something in your
head and eventually watch it roll out of the shop and down
the street."
Cardone also owned his own shop, East End Custom Cycles in
Queens Village, N.Y., for about 2-years before coming to Gasoline
Alley, NYC.
"A friend brought him by," said Indian Larry, co-owner
of Gasoline Alley, NYC. "We have a small crew here and
I was impressed and surprised with what the guy had done. He
is a good mechanic, fabricator and on the road he doubles as
my bodyguard."
The shop is not what one would expect. Throw away the stereotypes
and fill it with artistic minds that are open and question
everything. Cardone credits people in the shop as "at
the top of their game."
"To work here, you have to be a hard working and conscientious
guy," said Gerard Mortillaro, co-owner of Gasoline Alley,
NYC. "Generally, anybody with a military background has
those qualities."
Cardone is not the only military tie in the shop either. Gerard
Mortillaro also had a major influence from his father, Sgt.
Maj. Louis F. Mortillaro, USA. Mortillaro, who obviously is
a proud son, went on about a lifetime career that spanned the
Army Air Corps, North Africa and Europe with civilian governmental
service to follow.
Discovery Channel, which in this case is accurately named,
brought this already famous shop that is tucked into a side
street warehouse area, into the limelight. Hits on the website,
www.gasolinealleynyc,com, have now reached a record high.
"The show has brought people by and the phone has not
stopped ringing," said Cardone.
And when asked about his future, he said, "I'm happy
right here."
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